Automute for goon

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evirdrevo
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Automute for goon

Post by evirdrevo » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:14 pm

Hey guys,

I'm having a really hard time seeing people perma muted as goons. I understand that this might be necessary for some people as a message some things cannot be accepted but it seems like a last resort punishment which should be limited in time.

It seems a lot of people hate on noniiin for example, I don't know why he is permamuted but I totally understand this guy's attitude. He has great mechanical skill but it frustrated by the sheer amount of asshole things so many players do on the server, without them even knowing what they do wrong or if they even do asshole stuff. This can be summed up as:

- blocking. all. the. time. Hugging, standing way too close and not giving your teammate room to strafe and aim.
- totally retarded teamdamage that can be avoided in a lot of cases and 90% by the same people.
- just being so useless it would be a stupid move to risk your own life and skill to revive a player you know who will reload and run away.

I'm not saying there is ill intent by these players but to veteran players this kind of behaviour is seen as very impolite and rude. At some point you decide to stop healing certain players and although I rarely do this, there are moments I stop reviving certain players for this kind of playstyle.

Yes, you might hate Noniiin for not reviving when he could and should, but he actually revives people who are good teammates to him all the time. I don't know what he did wrong but I think you should give the guy a second chance and remove his permamute.

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Re: Automute for goon

Post by OgniW@n » Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:34 am

evirdrevo wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:14 pm

....without them even knowing what they do wrong or if they even do asshole stuff. This can be summed up as:

- blocking. all. the. time. Hugging, standing way too close and not giving your teammate room to strafe and aim.
- totally retarded teamdamage that can be avoided in a lot of cases and 90% by the same people.
- just being so useless it would be a stupid move to risk your own life and skill to revive a player you know who will reload and run away.

... to veteran players this kind of behaviour is seen as very impolite and rude. At some point you decide to stop healing certain players and although I rarely do this, there are moments I stop reviving certain players for this kind of playstyle.
:o :shock: :(

Do you still keep in mind that !!! are public servers, where all kind of players are welcome, skilled ones and newbies? Your words sound for me like the leet players are getting disturbed by the others, IMHO those players should find a place where the can play among each others and avoid playing on !!!.

Ciao
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evirdrevo
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Re: Automute for goon

Post by evirdrevo » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:53 am

No, I'm saying that you might consider his playstyle impolite, but so are some other players who either don't realize what they are going wrong or in the case of teamkillers they simply don't care. All I'm asking for is a little bit of empathy and not permamute people when you don't have to.

c0rnn
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Re: Automute for goon

Post by c0rnn » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:14 am

-2 level or "Goon" automutes people (in case of noniiin this doesn't even matter as he doesn't even talk much at all) and prevents them callvoting kicks or mutes, and also prevents them callvote unmuting themselves. Noniiin was not set to -2 because he talked shit, automute is just a side effect of his level which he got demoted to for repeated teamkilling, wounding, pushing and kick voting. If he improves his behaviour he will get promoted to -1 and so on. These levels are also for us to track the playerbase so we know who the dorks, goons, regulars, etc., are.

evirdrevo
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Re: Automute for goon

Post by evirdrevo » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:29 am

Sounds fair.

c0rnn
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Re: Automute for goon

Post by c0rnn » Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:04 am

Forgot to add goons can't /m or /pm either.

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Monty on the Run
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Re: Automute for goon

Post by Monty on the Run » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:57 pm

noniiin did not change his behaviour even after being set -2. The only protection his level gives other players is that he can't kickvote them for no valid reason.

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